From - Wed Mar 6 16:41:21 2002 From: "stvfrmco" Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.usa,soc.culture.mexican.american References: <6IUg8.36591$0C1.2929680@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3C8429D7.7607B155@bellsouth.net> <3C843AEC.B9D426D2@bellsouth.net> <3C8446CC.8DF51AB1@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: What the hell is it going to take?? Lines: 135 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:48:46 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.227.40.23 X-Trace: news.uswest.net 1015364937 63.227.40.23 (Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:48:57 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:48:57 CST Path: vienna7.his.com!vienna2.his.com!newsfeed4.cidera.com!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!newsfeed.cwix.com!feed.news.qwest.net!news.uswest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: vienna7.his.com alt.politics:747791 alt.politics.immigration:1609 alt.politics.usa:112736 soc.culture.mexican.american:418 "Joe User" wrote in message news:a61oag$42p@dispatch.concentric.net... > > wrote in message news:3C8446CC.8DF51AB1@bellsouth.net... > > "îJayî" wrote: > > > > > > Stress is nothing, people have given their lives for this country. > Things > > > are > > > > changing. It may not be a better country for me and you, but we can > make > > > it > > > > better for our children and grandchildren. I know of general > construction > > > > contractors and restaurants that will not hire Mexicans, no matter how > > > cheap > > > > they will work. These are the people we need. If you want to do > > > something, > > > > keep posting to newsgroups like this, and let people know how you > feel. I > > > am > > > > sure politicians read newsgroups like this. > > > > > > But what if it is unstoppable? You don't see it as inevitable that > > > eventually the 3rd and 1st worlds will merge together? If that's the > case > > > then I think the best thing we can do is stop immigration for a 20-30 > year > > > period, then when people do start coming in again they should be let in > by a > > > controlled fashion so they can learn about our culture, history, > mannerisms, > > > language and principles, so as to become real citizens rather then a > little > > > pocket of Mexico, Cuba or the Philippines right here in the U.S. that > takes > > > from our society, yet lives separate from it. I want so much to live in > a > > > nation where the people have shared ideals, mannerisms and culture, etc. > I'm > > > feeling very socially and culturally isolated, and in my own country I > > > shouldn't feel that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It can be stopped, and it will be. I agree with you about immigration, > and the > > majority of American citizens agree with you. The United States > government just > > doesn't agree with you. I believe after the next terrorist attack, > millions of > > illegal immigrants will be deported. If you are really that stressed out, > why > > not move to a state that doesn't have that many immigrants? > > The forigeners are an army, requried reading is a book that was written 30 > years ago called "The Camp of the Saints" by Raspail( the origional is in > French, but it's been translated), and they must be treated as an invading > army, which means involving the military to root them out, which will be > hard. > > I"m not saying it will be plesent, including the suspension of > constitutional rights for awhile until the foriegn plague can be > elminitated, most probably it will be like a second civil war, blood will > run through our streets, there will be massive casualties, the pathetic > thrid worlders are fighting for survival, home is places like Central and > South America, Asia, the middle east, they know being sent home means living > in abjunct proverty with no hope of a future for them or the spew of their > loins, they will fight to the death to stay, they will perpetrate terroist > attacks like the ones in NYC and the pentegon on a regular basis. > > The question becomes is America willing to make the terrible sacrifice and > endure the hardships of rooting out the forigners now while we still > outnumber them, or will they continue to blindly follow the tratorous > special intrest groups, both liberals who are just that stupid to beleive > that their is enough for everyone or business cartels looking to make higher > profit margins at the expense of the american people. > > Choose quickly, time is very short, once the thrid world has established a > critical mass, it will be too late. VOTE, I don't care if it's people like > Buchanan, who flakes out at times, do not allow the foiegners to get their > own representives, support only European or Black canidates, regardless of > political party, even if they have different views on issues other than > immigration, in the end they are americans, and we must unite as a nation, > or perish living under the yoke of the third world. > > For business owners, do not hire them, for land lords do not give them a > place to live, in the workplace, in schools, in the markets, treat them like > the dirt they are, let them know they are hated, vote with your dollars! Do > not support immigrant or immigrant freindly businsses, they need cash to > support their efforts force the issue to a head, so that politicians are > forced to show their hand, to show where their loyalties lie, if they are > pro-immigrant, start grass root issues to have them removed, even threat of > impeachment is enough for them to fall into line. > > > > There was a Chinese communist guy named Lin Pao who was the ideological leader of Red China and of the North Vietnames and Viet Cong who's premise was that people's armies could take over any industrialized nation by sneaking in and taking over the countryside. He actually created the model by which the Viet Cong took over South Vietnam by controlling the countryside -- the same model used in Afghanistan for the Mujahadeen to defeat the Soviets. This same model is used by FARC in Colombia and the Sendero Luminosa (Shining Path) in Peru. Mr. Pao saw the white, industrialized countries as "cities" and the Third World countries as the "countryside." The invasion of the U.S. by Mexican and Central American peasants is a classic people's liberation army struggle against the First World. While Ollie North and other talking heads on the television circuit believe that in the Iran-Contra war that the communists were defeated -- the opposite is true. The civil war has merely moved north into our country. Just visit mining towns and mountain communities in the Rocky Mountain West and you'll find that "undocumented aliens" make up anywhere from 25 to 50 percent of these communities. These areas are beginning to resemble the Central American communities that provide these "foot soldiers" in the invasion. Senator Joseph McCarthy was right!